Leading authority on Islam calls Pope Francis ‘immoral!’

Islam kill the infidel

From the religion of peace…

“And slay them wherever you come upon them, Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s.”
4:89: “If they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”
5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land.”

Holy See should look to itself before “casting stones” at others?!

The leading authority on Islam in Turkey has condemned the Pope as “immoral” for describing the killing of 1.5 Armenians in 1915 as genocide.

Mehmet Görmez, head of the presidency of religious affairs in Turkey (making him the most senior scholar and Islamic cleric in Turkey and Northern Cyprus) said the Holy See should look to itself before “casting stones” at others.

Mehmet Görmez, head of the presidency of religious affairs in Turkey (making him the most senior scholar and Islamic cleric in Turkey and Northern Cyprus) said the Holy See should look to itself before “casting stones” at others.

The Pope prompted a diplomatic row when, in remarks to commemorate the Armenian killings, he described the massacre as genocide. Turkey hauled in the Vatican’s envoy for a dressing down, and recalled its own representative from Rome.

“The Vatican will come out as the biggest loser if we are all giving account for past sufferings and pain caused,” Mehmet Görmez told Reuters in an interview.

Thousands of refugees from Syria are currently in Turkey, having fled the depredations of Islamic State. “Is the current situation of millions of Syrian refugees much less cause for concern to the Vatican than what happened during the Armenian deportation? I find the Pope’s statement immoral, and can’t reconcile it with basic Christian values.”

Görmez criticized rising Islamophobia in Europe which he blamed on a weak economy and difficulties integrating immigrants. He said: “Islamophobia should be considered a crime against humanity, just like anti-Semitism.”

Görmez also said violence carried out by groups such as the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), Boko Haram, Al Shabaab and al Qaeda was a consequence of ignorance and poverty, as well as of the exploitation of the Middle East and Africa for two centuries. But he said in addition that the Koran should not be used to validate violence.

“Islam was a religion creating civilization throughout history. When educating Muslim children, clerics should reflect on the comparison between that and today’s Koranic interpretations that incite violence,” he said.

The debate has been prompted by the 100th anniversary of the World War One massacre by Ottoman Turkish forces, which is this Friday. France, the European parliament and Pope Francis use the term “genocide” .

Turkey says they were not genocide because the killings were not the result of an order from above or an organized campaign. (??)  United Nations spokesman Stephane Dujarric said on Monday that the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon prefers to describe the killings as an “atrocity crime” and not genocide.

An article by the New York Times dated 15 December 1915 states that one million Armenians had been either deported or executed by the Ottoman government.    - Wikipedia

An article by the New York Times dated 15 December 1915 states that one million Armenians had been either deported or executed by the Ottoman government. 

Res ipsa loquitur!!

An article by the New York Times dated 15 December 1915 states that one million Armenians had been either deported or executed by the Ottoman government.

With the implementation of Tehcir Law, the confiscation of Armenian property and the slaughter of Armenians that ensued upon its enactment outraged much of the western world. While the Ottoman Empire’s wartime allies offered little protest, a wealth of German and Austrian historical documents has since come to attest to the witnesses’ horror at the killings and mass starvation of Armenians.

In the United States, The New York Times reported almost daily on the mass murder of the Armenian people, describing the process as “systematic”, “authorized” and “organized by the government”. Theodore Roosevelt would later characterize this as “the greatest crime of the war”

The remains of Armenians massacred at Erzinjan

The remains of Armenians massacred at Erzinjan

Armenian Genocide is acknowledged to have been one of the first modern genocides, because scholars point to the organized manner in which the killings were carried out in order to eliminate the Armenians, and it is the second most-studied case of genocide after the Holocaust.

To date, twenty-three countries have officially recognized the mass killings as genocide, a view which is shared by most genocide scholars and historians.

Historian Hans-Lukas Kieser states that, from the statements of Talaat Pasha  it is clear that the officials were aware that the deportation order was genocidal.  Another historian Taner Akçam states that the telegrams show that the overall coordination of the genocide was taken over by Talaat Pasha.

Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field.

Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field.

Death marches

The Armenians were marched out to the Syrian town of Deir ez-Zor and the surrounding desert. There is no evidence that the Ottoman government provided the extensive facilities and supplies that would have been necessary to sustain the life of hundreds of thousands of Armenian deportees during their forced march to the Syrian desert or after.  By August 1915, The New York Times repeated an unattributed report that “the roads and the Euphrates are strewn with corpses of exiles, and those who survive are doomed to certain death. It is a plan to exterminate the whole Armenian people.”


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Stung by Pope’s Remarks on Armenian Genocide, Turkish Minister Insults Argentina

Bergoglio has caused a 'problem of trust'

Turkish officials continued to vent their fury at Pope Francis on Monday, one day after he called the mass killing of Armenians a century ago “the first genocide of the 20th century,” at a commemorative mass at the Vatican.

Video of Pope Francis during a Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican on Sunday on the 100th anniversary of the start of the killings of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians. Rome Reports, via YouTube

The latest outraged response came from Volkan Bozkir, Turkey’s minister for European affairs, who significantly upped the ante on his colleagues by suggesting that Argentines as whole, and not just the pope, had been brainwashed by rich and powerful Armenians in their midst.

In remarks broadcast on national television, Mr. Bozkir began by reminding reporters that Pope Francis, born Jorge Mario Bergoglio in Buenos Aires in 1936, is “an Argentine.” Mr. Bozkir then hinted that the country has a dark past of its own. “Argentina was a country that welcomed the leading executors of the Jewish Holocaust, Nazi torturers, with open arms,” he said.

Volkan Bozkir, Turkey’s minister for European affairs, criticized Pope Francis for describing the World War I-era massacre of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as genocide.

Mr. Bozkir then sought to provide an explanation for where Argentines might have gotten the idea that the 1.5 million Armenians killed between 1915 and 1923 in the last days of the Ottoman Empire had been slaughtered intentionally.

“In Argentina,” Mr. Bozkir asserted, “the Armenian diaspora controls the media and business.” The minister provided no evidence for his assertion and was not asked for any. (One prominent member of the Armenian diaspora in Argentina, Eduardo Eurnekian, is a billionaire who did once have significant media holdings, but he sold them two decades ago, according to Forbes.)

Argentina, which is home of the largest community of Armenians in South America, more than 100,000, angered the Turks in 2006 by adopting legislation that formally recognized April 24 as a day “in commemoration of the Armenian Genocide.”

Turkey’s government has acknowledged that atrocities were committed during the period but fiercely opposes the characterization that the killing of Armenians was systematic and intentional.

”The 1915 events took place during World War I when a portion of the Armenian population living in the Ottoman Empire sided with the invading Russians and revolted against the empire,” the Turkish news agency Anadolu reported on Monday. “The Ottoman Empire relocated Armenians in eastern Anatolia following the revolts and there were Armenian casualties during the relocation process,” the report continued.

In 2003, the Argentine journalist Uki Goñi revealed in his book, “The Real Odessa: Smuggling the Nazis to Perón’s Argentina,” that Juan Perón’s postwar government had clandestinely helped Nazi war criminals flee there at the end of World War II. Using documents from European archives, Mr. Goñi showed that the Vatican, Swiss authorities and the Red Cross had played key roles in the escape to Argentina of Nazis including Adolf Eichmann, Dr. Josef Mengele and Klaus Barbie, as well as dozens of French, Belgian, Italian, Croatian and Slovak fascists, many of them Nazi collaborators.

The Argentine journalist Uki Goñi outside Adolf Eichmann’s former home in Argentina. Uki Goñi, via YouTube

Pope’s sex abuse advisers meet in Rome over Chile bishop!

Absolute Heresy: "Who am I to Judge?!"

Absolute Heresy: “Who am I to Judge?!”

More than 1,300 church members in Osorno, along with some 30 priests from the diocese and 51 of Chile’s 120 members of Parliament, sent letters to Francis in February urging him to rescind the appointment…

The appeal was also a test case for the pope’s stated policy of zero tolerance for clerical abuses. Bergoglio Failed!!

VATICAN CITY – (April 14) — Four members of Pope Francis’ advisory commission on clergy sex abuse traveled to Rome to express their concerns in person about Francis’ appointment of a Chilean bishop accused of covering up for the country’s most notorious molester.

The four met with Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston, the head of the commission, about the appointment of Juan Barros as bishop of Osorno in southern Chile, they said in a statement Sunday. O’Malley agreed to relay their concerns to the pope, according to the statement.

Victims of the Rev. Fernando Karadima say Barros knew of and even witnessed Karadima’s abuse decades ago. Barros was a protege of the charismatic Karadima, who was sanctioned by the Vatican in 2011 for sexually abusing minors.

Commission member Marie Collins said that if Barros doesn’t appreciate that Karadima’s behavior was inappropriate, ‘‘then he doesn’t understand child abuse.’’

‘‘And if he doesn’t understand child abuse,’’ she continued, ‘‘there’s a child protection concern about him being in charge of a diocese.’’

In the statement, the four commission members said the process of appointing bishops must take into account their understanding of how children must be protected.

Bergoglio didn't get the memo...

Bergoglio didn’t get the memo…

‘‘In the light of the fact that sexual abuse is so common, the ability of a bishop to enact effective policies, and to carefully monitor compliance, is essential,’’ the statement said.

Barros, the former chaplain of Chile’s armed forces, has faced unprecedented popular and ecclesial opposition since he was named in January. More than 1,300 church members in Osorno, some 30 diocesan priests, and 51 of Chile’s 120 members of Parliament sent letters to Francis urging him to rescind the appointment.

Barros has denied wrongdoing and insisted he didn’t know about the abuse until reading 2010 news reports. The Vatican has defended the appointment but said bishops will be held accountable.

O’Malley is in Rome this week for a meeting of the Council of Cardinals.